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Originally posted by ronin
now what the hell does that mean??? that's about the weirdest, most nonsensical juxtaposition since the Mondale-Ferraro ticket!

and I see that you've relocated to the north a bit. looks like I'll have to track you down for a good ole asswhuppin'. you've had it coming for quite some time, boy!

how about a beer this weekend?
I've always admired dreamers.

Seriously though. I'm just not sure how you could not recognize what I'm reporting. While a sole proprietorship has the same legal identity as its owner, corporations are new, independent entitles separate from their owners. They are independent legal creatures in many respects. That's part of the advantage of incorporating. So, they are 'citizens' in a way. They file their own income tax forms, etc. But there is still an important difference. They don't vote.

But wait a minute. These creatures that don't vote most definitely have a stake in public policy formation. They're affected by legislation. And they have FORMIDABLE financial resources. So, they get involved in the process of making public policy. But they don't vote. They don't have to breathe the air or drink the water. Their decision-makers are legally bound to maximize profits in any way that is not illegal (usually).

Awe, nevermind. Let me just ask you this: Are you aware that corporations have a great deal of influence over Congress? I should just take this one step at at time but assuming you admit that Congress is powerfully influenced by corporations, then I'll ask whether you believe that corporate interests might ever be in conflict with whats' good for citizens. Here's a clue: Pollution. Why would a corporation, whose sole agenda is maximizing profits, ever become concerned about pollution? Except to avoid fines, or to avoid public disdain. And please don't pretend that the leaders of a large corporation might leave profits on the table in the interest of public health. They are not allowed to do this, if those profits (obtained by polluting) are there for the taking and are not illegal.

Oh, and I have a beer every weekend. At least one. I'd be honored if you would join me.
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