[Tishabet]

Originally posted by mikester
There are too many people out there who have no photo id, elderly come to mind. They have the right to vote, EVERYONE has the right NOT to have a photo id. If I could get away with being as anonymous as possible I would but I can't do that and function.

The questio is, has there been voter fraud to warrant these new laws? If there has - show me the data - if you don't have it then I don't need to provide you data showing disenfranchisement because you are trying to fix something that you can't prove is broken. The republicans who want this are on the hook for data showing a problem - a perceived problem is not a real problem.

Show me actual convictions for voter fraud because that is the only real acceptible proof there is - NOT allegations, not news reports to the effect - actual convictions.

Mikester- I think you're mixing your issues. I'm aware of the debate over photo ID to vote, but we're talking about driver's licenses here. I don't think it's unreasonable to require this documentation for a license, and in my state you already need most of this stuff to get one. I mean, you need photo ID and proof of residemce to get a library card...