[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally posted by CamB
Souk, your story is about personal responsibility, AND welfare, AND having good friends, AND having family which contributes. Those are important factors.

Now, back to this:



They could become contributing members to society and hence are not worthless. No-one is worthless.

Prove to me that more than 0.1% of the population is living off the system long term AND doing so because of laziness and I'll have some sympathy for your arguments.

Sure, I'll just start going door to door, across the nation. Of course, I couldn't just ask, because no one would admit to scamming the system, so I'd have to observe them for a week or so to see if their activities are consistent with their claimed disability. I'll get back to you in about two thousand years.

I feel that I was being very generous with my 1% comment, because in my personal experience, 100% of the people that I have came into contact with that are on welfare or disability are taking advantage of the system. All were capable of working, and actually most of them had side jobs that paid in cash, in order for them to avoid having to report the income, and therefore forfit their government benefits. In the four years I worked in the mobile home park, I had probably the most contact with the welfare cases, we often ended up making repairs to their homes pro-bono to keep them within standards of decency. I admit that I am negative about welfare and disability as a whole, but of all the people that have responded to this thread that have personally been in contact with the system, how many had something positive to say?

One of my favorite stories was told by a guy I work with that had a civil case in state court in Topeka. His case was being heard on the same day as the disability appeals, and as he parked, the man parked in front of him got out of his car and RAN across the street and up the courthouse stairs. When he hit the door he developed a prononced limp, and lo and behold, he walked into the courtroom that was having the welfare hearings.