nickd, Im not questioning your skills, and I do stand corrected, I was thinking more along the lines of changing from a TMIC to a FMIC not from a non intercooled to a intercooled. Even then a 35hp boost from adding a IC to a non IC car seems like a big boost in power when not adding more boost. Please correct me if Im wrong, Im not trying to start a fight or say nasty things, just trying to get things clear. Second I never said that I just repeat what I hear second hand from the internet, not really sure where you got that idea from. So like I said in a past post, I can say Im a guru in 931's or in turbos but I do know A thing or 2 but as you so clearly stated you know more, so I gotta run and brush up on my mechanical skills now before I wake up and go to work at toyota