[DaveE]

Bryan, It does offend me to see people take advantage of these programs but I tend to think that there are maybe 10 being helped for every one abuser, sort of the reverse of your assumption. I have nothing to base that on, only that I can't imagine anyone would want to live like that, hand to mouth, accountable to government agencies all the time. The paperwork alone was a PIA. My whole point was simply that these are not worthless programs. Without them I don't know what might have happened to us. Maybe we still would have overcome our hardships; I like to think so. My family helped us alot too but could have never to the extent that a whole society can help.