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GM purchased 20% of Fuji Heavy Industries in 2000/2001. Since then they have puchased ~5% more. Most shares were acquired from Nissan (Renault) when Ghosn took over. Fuji is a very diverse company, producing everything from superconductors to supertankers... Subaru is a just an arm. GM's large share of the entire comany assures that GM controls Subaru. GM badge-engineering the Saab 9-2x is proof. There are lots of Subie components in the upcoming Pontiac Solstice / Saturn Sky as well. The hydroformed rails in the new Subaru Legacy are pure GM. GM markets the Forester as a Chevrolet in several foreign markets because Subaru doesn't have the dealer network. Both companies benefit from the relationship. Expect more 'sharing' in the future.

BSiple-

The GT500 will be an incredible machine, no doubt. The GT500, however, forgoes the Ford GT's efficient (and expensive) Lysholm twin-screw supercharger for a more pedestrian roots-type blower. There are other differences in the engines of course. I would guess that the new GT500 will put down 470-480 horsepower at the flywheel at 8.5psi. (It won't take long to see someone put on a pulley and crank it over 10psi and make a short-lived 550+hp) It is good news that the manufacturers are now under-rating their outputs.

My experience with 2001-2002 Camaro Z28's: they were rated at 305hp. I've been present at several dyno runs where a bone-stock car put down 315-320 TO THE REAR WHEELS. Equates to about 350-360 at the crank.

That said, I have heard that the LS7 motor (on an engine dyno at GM's Wixom plant) at 565hp on the dyno. SAE testing is corrected, and assuredly lower.

By the way, a bone stock 06 C6 Z06 lapped the Ring at 7:43 where the Carrera GT did a best of 7:36 and the 996 GT3 RS (with Walter Röhrl at the wheel) also did 7:43.

Ultimately WE, the consumers, win the latest horsepower wars.

Sorry for rambling, AGAIN

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