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A Man of Wealth and Taste
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Out there somewhere beyond the doors of perception
Posts: 51,063
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I thought U boyz would never catch it.....
On balance was removing a hostile to the USA regime worth it? Sadam if he had the chance would have gotten those WMD's in a heartbeat...at the least he was a saber rattler and as such gave a number of people nightmares...in other words he was a destabilizing influence on the region that is of strategic importance to the US and World and was hostile to the US...
Did the administration make mistakes...YES and BIG ONES THEY ARE...first not enough troops to do the job of providing ground security...But therein the tale is not just about Iraq...it's about Bureaucratic Politics ....who holds the power on military matters....the Military as represented by the Generals or the White House as represented by the Secratary of Defense....the Secratary of Defense won the battle...and the military uses every oportunity to undermine the Secratary...what do U think Abu Grabi was about anyway.....
Furthermore the Neocons agenda since 1991 has been to get rid of Sadam....and they finaly got their day....and it has't panned out like they said it would....and where is Wolfowitz now....Head of the World Bank.....and what did LBJ do with McNamera when he started to opose the war in Viet....off to the World Bank with U....they promote U to get rid of U....
I do think the Administration meaning Neocons who sold the program to GW...miscalculated...they didn't read the history of the country...Iraq was never a country...it was artifical lines drawn on the map by the Brits and Frogs at the end of WW1...3 ethnic groups that don't get along lumped together...kept together by the iron fist of oppression...and when that fist is removed chaos reigns...
So now the administrations stance is to tell the Iraqies...Look we've done what we can for you...stop dithering about and get on with it...cause we ain't gona be here forever to help U out..Our mistake was in letting them try and figure out what they wanted to do instead of telling them....McArthur in Japan is the model....but that is the mamby pamby Liberalism in America...lets try and keep everybody happy..let no ones feelings get hurt.... well Boyz and girlz...this ain't a Mister Rogers Woirld...the reality still is a bullet in the head is better than a ballot in the box...
So in reality what is America faced with in Iraq...a fragmented population that is at odds with each other viaing for political supreamacy....it's gona take decades to sort out....and since the place is of strategic importance to the USA....we will have to keep a number of troops in country to insure that the place doesn't disentegrate into another Somila....
But in reality could it have turned out any other way...if we made some better choich...more troops on the ground, not disbanding the the Iraqie Army, telling the Iraqies this is the framework of your new govt....maybe...but those ethnic differnces would still have to be addresed and who the fk knows...
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