[svandamme]

eh , i'm talking historically...
London, Paris , they've been around for longer than the US was colonized... and there's plenty of other cities that have been around for just as long... Brussels,Munchen, Vienna, Rome, probably more cities like that than there are states in the US of A. And most if not all of these towns have been connected by Train and tram for as long as there has been electricity and steam...

and yes for Rotterdam, clean slate, and they did make use of the opportunity to "redesign" the whole thing, R'dam has excellent public transportation.. many of the people where i work(we're mostly expacts, me included) , don't even have a car.maybe New Orleans could be a good candidate for a similar "redesign" ? if it has to be rebuilt , might as well do it right and "while the engine and tranny is out " upgrade a few things...