[Superman]

Eat $hit, Leland!

....but seriously.... I remember the good ol' days. They were wonderful. Some of you guys weren't here then, but the technical forum was a bit magical. Truly. Really witty, helpful guys. TONS of camaraderie. Enormously helpful. it got to the point where a guy who broke down on the road was likely to see a Pelicanhead in person within a half hour, anywhere in the nation. Then I came over here and found you buttheads and it's been downhill ever since.

.....but seriously, I'd also agree that this forum, with all its rancor, is stll two cuts above. We're certainly more mature than just about any other, and in spite of our disagreements, I'd drop everything to help any one of these guys and I think they'd do the same for me. Some of the most vicious attacks have been me whacking on Island, and he has forgiven me each time. So far. We see each other in person occasionally. So no, I don't think this is out of control. To an outsider it might seem that way, but we're a family that cannot be judged by an outsider.