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Funny (or not) how most anti Californians... live_in_California...
Obviously some people enjoy being pissed off, WTF if you don't like it here (or anywhere you are at) life is too short, MOVE!
You Oregonians need to get up with the times, everyone is moving to Arizona and Nevada. Moving to Oregon is soooo 80's.
I like Oregon and Washington state... heck I like most places I have been on work trips and vacations, Texas, Florida, Mass., K.C., Milwaukee, etc., etc.
Every city and state seems to have it's fair share of nice people and A-holes.
Only place I would move to is Hawaii, which is ironically the only place more expensive than L.A.
When I retire I may look into relocating to the central California coast.
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Gary Fisher 29er
2019 Kia Stinger 2.0t gone 
1995 Miata Sold
1984 944 Sold
I am not lost for I know where I am, however where I am is lost. - Winnie the poo.
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