[stevepaa]

Fint,
From what I could find, your last was mostly factual. He has a 5 year suspension on practicing law and cannot ever practice at Supreme Court.

The use of the term "lie" has strict standards. Most people don't lie. They evade, mislead, misstate and deflect. Just think back on your own childhood and what your children tell you. Are you always forthright with the whole truth?

Nixon's crew lied, were criminally convicted and served time
Reagen misstated and deflected.
Bush sr comment of "read my lips, no new taxes" might be construed as a broken promise. But he basically called it as he saw it.

Clinton evaded and misled. ( and, no, I don't like his personal morals, but we answer to God on that)

Bush makes statements that he has to revise. I think he is a basically honest guy who gets trapped assuming some of his people are as honest. I dislike his policies. And I think the intelligence that gets to him is filtered and tuned and that he did have an agenda wrt Iraq when he took office.

The only one I think came close to lying on TV so far is Rumsfeld when he said he knew where the WMD were. The use of the term "knew" implies absolute certainty with confirmation. He quickly caught himself and continued on to say the WMD were in Tikrit and all the areas around there. He watered down the certainty of his knowledge. He restated himself quickly, IMO, because he knew he didn't really "know" where they were.

So, the term "lie" has been grossly enlarged to mean broken promises, restatements, etc

Now mul uses the term in the broader sense in most of his posts as do many presidential detractors on both sides.