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Originally posted by wludavid
The argument is not that it's okay because the animals do it.
The argument is that it's not unnatural because the animals do it.
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I must dissagree, David. The argument completely loses its relevance if this is the basis for it. The very strong inference behind this argument is that it is OKAY because animals do it.
The argument has never been whether homosexuality is a naturally occurring aberation. The argument is whether people should succumb to their unhealthy desires and act upon those urges. Animals don't know any better. Humans do.
As far as that argument goes, I could care less if people want to partake of the gay lifestyle. I only start to care when they start to whine, asking for special considerations because they are gay. I do not support their position that they deserve any because they are gay, and I do not support polticians (typically liberals) that support them.
We started off discussing what a liberal was on this thread. It then kind of evolved into why some of us can no longer consider ourselves "liberals" in spite of holding many liberal values. The gay issue was brought up as an example of one that modern liberalism has adopted that has driven people like me away. It's not because we are hateful or intolerant (or whatever other labels liberals like to throw our way); it's because we dissagree with the party line on some newly adopted liberal causes. This is just one of many. You can argue in its favor all you want; we are already familiar with those arguments and dissagree with them. And we are no longer liberals. Your numbers are shrinking by the day; that's the real point of all of this.