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Originally posted by stevepaa
Rick. You assume there are only two traits- hard work and determination that are necessary for success. With only your two traits, then anybody who cannot self sustain, is that way because he is basically lazy. You argue that in this capitalistic society, everyone can win: there will be no poor.
I presume there are many others including physical and psychological factors.
I don't presume any single poor person can not become rich, nor any rich person can not become poor. Those that are poor are a dynamic group just as those that are rich are a dynamic group. I presume there will always be rich people and poor people with the vast majority of people doing okay.
I am just considering an alternative explanation.
I'll leave it at that.
First, I never said there were only two factors. I simply said that in my mind the most important "bell curve" measures hard work, not genetic makeup. I completely agree with you that there are certainly some people who have a knack for business or art or metalworking or flying a plane or selling Porsche parts online. The difference between us is that you seem to think that someone who fails in our society was never able to succeed in the first place. I think they didn't succeed because they didn't try hard enough.

I don't discount people's backgrounds in how difficult it might be for them to succeed, obviously Paris Hilton has it easy and the kid in the projects has it tough. I think government should be there to help out that kid in the projects too. But I patently reject this notion that the failures in our society were genetically programmed to fail.
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