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Originally posted by Nathans_Dad
Going around judging whether these people are in the position they are because of laziness or fate or genetics does not move the ball. Figuring out a social program that helps them succeed, and gives their kids a chance to succeed, does.


Right Rodeo, and welfare does none of those things.
Calm down, big guy ... If you want to smack around a liberal, this is not the opportunity.

I never said or implied that the current system did or did not accomplish anything. My only point is that whatever system we have should focus on how to lift people from poverty and dependence, and not on whether to afford services conditioned upon why people find themselves in need of help.

That 22 year old mother that I keep bringing up, but everyone else wants to ignore in favor of some theoretical discussion of whether her genes or environment or laziness or stupidity got her there, is the face of the problem. And her 6 month old kid is the face of the problem in the future.

We can test them genetically all you like, but until we figure out a way to get them out of poverty and dependence, those tests are a waste of time and money.
Old 12-09-2005, 09:14 AM
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