[Shaun @ Tru6]

Let me clarify: He's completely against how the war was sold and how it is being administrated.

There's his whole exchange on the validity of WMDs, tubes, etc.


Did we make mistakes? Yes. Did we poorly plan the fall of Baghdad? You'd better believe it. Shinseki was right. We should have had more troops. We need more troops now, in my opinion. This idea that it's a bunch of dead-enders is totally wrong. The insurgency's got to be larger than 1/10th of 1 percent because Zarqawi's been able to survive this long. So, yeah, we've made tons of mistakes.



But here's the problem. When you tell people it costs $50 billion is all it's going to cost to rebuild Iraq, as Mr. Wolfowitz did, when you tell people that the insurgency is 1/10th of 1 percent and it still goes on after four years, there's a price to pay for underestimating how hard this is, and I think that's been the president's problem. He has made some policy statements in speeches recognizing problems.

But for us to deny the fact that we're a long way from a secure Iraq needs to stop. How can you have a secure Iraq when the defense attorneys and the judges are being killed?

I guess, Rick, we can both read what we want in his statements. I see a man who says that the whole thing has been oversold and bungled from start to finish and that we need to learn from that and take responsibility and do the right thing, finish the job with strength, something the admin is unwilling to do.

In my logic, that summation says he regrets that we got into the war, mismanaged the war, but supports a *possible* positive outcome and says we need to step up to the plate for that outcome to be a reality.