such discussion over my little car! Thanks to all of you for your suggestions and help! I had re-wired to stock configuration and that didn't help. I think this is a combination of a lot of little things equaling too much resistance. I'v cleaned the relay board, and re-installed the new hot start relay, including re-wiring from the board to the relay with thicker guage wire, and plan to add a ground strap directly from the starter. However, its starting 95% of the time and i figure that's pretty good. Now, on to the exhaust leak....
btw, rcrgrl stands for racer
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