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Originally posted by Mulhollanddose
It is not illegal "pure and simple."...The power Bush is wielding falls far short of those used by wartime Presidents of the past.

Also not relevant, most of the actions of presidents (typically you're probably thinking of America's great fascist Roosevelt) were illegal when practiced, and illegal now. Activities of past criminals do not excuse a person currently committing criminal acts, president of not.

Remember those wartime Presidents weren't dealing with a terrorist situation, they were dealing with defined enemies (save Lincoln)...The problem we have is liberals.

Garbage. There are many genuine conservatives or paleo-libertarians such as Thomas Fleming, Pat Buchanan, Lew Rockwell, Joseph Sobran and myself that have pointed out Bush's war crimes and other unconstitutional acts. Painting those of us that demand lawful government as other than what we are is the act of the scurrilous coward that can't defend these crimes.

All this money and monkey-dust that was thrown up in the air by the 9-11 Commission was apparently an effort in political drama. Sitting on the Commission was Jamie Goerlick who was in charge of hamstringing intelligence sharing. Now we have a plan and are implementing the plan, to cripple and capture terrorist, and now we demonize GW?

The 911 Commission was government investigating itself, that alone is enough to tar it with the stench of illegitimacy. You're playing the "your team - my team" game, which is childish nonsense. The fact is that it's government itself that's the problem, it matters not who the current criminal labels himself; either an R or a D.

The problem is liberals. If they were "loyal" , which they are not, and wouldn't stab Bush in the back with the knife of blame (if another attack occured as we preserved our towel-headed friends' civil rights) if another attack occured, then I would join this call to allowing terrorists to communicate with impugnity. That is not the case. The Democrats and their media friends would drag Bush through the streets and hang him from the Capitol with piano wire if that happened.

As it stands Bush has not abused his power. Bush hasn't entered within a mile of the powers previous wartime Presidents have exercised.

You are damned if you do, you are dead if you don't.

More childish nonsense. The government's colossal failure in preventing the 911 event is mind boggling. All the money spent by federal agencies provided nothing.

By the way, George W. Bush is not a conservative; he's a flaming liberal by any known standard.