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Thanks for the advice guys,
I really am wanting to buy this for the wife, not the neighbors. All advice offered is valued. I want the wife (and family) in a nice car, not just something to dive. There are many Fords, Chevys, and even VWs on this block, the wifes FORD van fits in fine. This is not about impressing the neighbors, this is about getting a good car for the wife.
I prefer buying new, but considered buying a program car (or lease return). I have college costs coming up, limits $$$ right now. The 330i kinda fits the budget, but jeez, drive the Lexus 350, that car is a rocket (still a Toyota as techweenie points out, and WE already discussed that point).
The wife deserves a decent car (she puts up with me), so it is looking like a 330i at this point (and not for the neighbors). Sorry if it looked like to keep up with the joneses. It is not. My house shows I'll never keep up with them.
It's really about a car.