[Jeff Alton]

Hmmmmm, you may not have been here long enough to have seen a lot of the posts by Loren that moderators ended up removing and threads that got deleted from the archives. It is understandable why some have such issues with Loren. There is a pretty good reason why some folks give it to him pretty good. I can't remember too many, if any, times that he got it worse than he gave it.

Also, I think what Sammy is saying is something more along the lines of this.
He maybe would not eat at McDonalds if he had a big issue with one of their suppliers. Is he being harsh? Maybe, but like you said, it is a message board and it is free speach.

I just don't care for his delivery period. Yes, he has posted losts of very good and useful info over the years, but the way he does it just rubs some people. The whole notion that if you don't agree 100% with him then you must be an idiot is laughable.

The sad part is, if I was ever in need of services that his company offers, I would look elsewhere. I don't deal with people who tell their potential customers they are stupid, plain and simple. I am sure I am not alone in this thinking even though He and I have never had a war of words at all. But when a business owner posts I try hard to deterimine if the poster is someone I would do business with judging by their attitude and courtesy. I have nothing to base it on other than a gut feeling, but I would not want to find out what it would be like if I had a problem with some work his company performed for me. So, I would just avoid the chance to find out.

Cheers