[VaSteve]

Originally posted by stuartj
Yeah, he wasnt muh good.

What you say is quite correct, but consider this- under hard brakes that the car is decelerating at a greater rate than would be provided by engine braking alone (such as you descirbe)- its true to say in these circumstances while the brakes are retarding quite rapidly the car, the engine is still trying to drive it forward.

I'm not saying use engine braking alone.

Add the threshhold braking and the engine braking and you should stop in shorter distance than the middle pedal alone. Unless you were still on the gas (or your gas pedal was stuck down) the engine is not naturally "driving the car forward."

ABS actually increases your stopping distance. The grab-release-grab-release ABS effect increases the braking distance during the release. True threshold braking is before the ABS comes on.

Panic stops and track driving are two different things however.