[Taz's Master]

This argument is only valid if you endeavor to apply the Constitution as our founding fathers intended. If that is not your position then the argument may not have much footing. But when the Constitution was being considered for ratification by the states, Governor Clinton of New York was against ratification. Clinton was willing to ratify the constitution conditionally, reserving the right to withdraw from the union later. Madison and Himilton argued against this. Madison argued that the Constitution could not contemplate its own overthrow. There could be no such thing as the Constitutional right of secession. Hamilton sided with Madison and argued against Clinton's position. It is difficult to discount the positions of Hamilton and Madison when trying to apply the Constitution as its authors intended.