[jeffgrant]

To further expound on this, case in point.

When I was *ahem* younger, I played a lot of rugby.

We had a crappy field behind the local high school, but we spent 3-4 nights a week there for many years playing a game we love.

We even had the support of the local businesses, as we were always helping out the community, etc.

One construction company kindly donated an old Atco trailer (the kind of foreman's trailer you'd find on a construction site).

This was to allow us to have on-site change rooms, etc., as well as to give us a place to store some of our bigger training aids. (Scrum machine, etc).

Well, we show up one afternoon to find about 7 kids sitting on the sidelines, with a cop there taking notes.

We then notice that the trailer had been smashed to hell... about $20,000 worth of damage. The lexan windows had been smashed out, the whole trailer had been pushed off of it's foundation, walls busted, etc.

The cop did us a favour... he knew that not much would come of any legal thing he could do, so he intentionally held the kids there long enough, in the guise of "taking notes", for us to see who they were when we showed up for practice. The cop (who we knew) even asked them if they wanted to be charged with this and taken in, or do they want to hang around and wait for us to show up. They ALL said they wanted to be charged and taken in... away from us.

Then we showed up. They were scared sh$tless.

We knew most of the kids, and even had a few of them in our junior rugby league.

Also turns out that one of the kids was the son of the owner of the company that actually donated the trailer.

For the next couple of weeks, the 4 kids who were in our juniors league didn't show for practice or games, so a few of us made a visit to their parents.

We basically told them that we expected them to be there, and yeah, we were pissed off and dissapointed over what they'd done, but we weren't going to kick them out of the league. If anything, that just showed that they REALLY needed it.

Sure enough, they spent the next few months paying for damages, fixing stuff, and basically busting their asses in practice.

They also seemed to take an inordinately large number of rough hits in practice, but I'm sure that was a pure coincidence.