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Originally posted by ianc
I'm not, I don't think. What I'm getting from your comments are a lot of examples of how screwed up we are, and how hence we are not in a position to educate people or even offer them any advice on how to grow and evolve.
I agree that there are things wrong here and we are not perfect. I assert that our society is a helluva lot more open and offers a lot more personal freedoms than those found in the typical strict Islamic society however, and that people living in those societies could benefit from our influence.
My take is that you don't think this is the case.
ianc
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Provided the unabashed vitriol displayed by our leaders with terminology such as "Your either with us, or against us," no, I don't think this is the case.
As far as my examples: they have a lot of range because they are the same things that we hold as the fabric of our country, yet are being exploited and abused in deference to other societies who do not politically, culturally, and religiously resemble our own.
It's like you telling me I should drive a Targa because it will make me feel more in tune with what I'm driving around - the sky, nature, the city or whatever. But meanwhile, I say I should drive a coupe because I don't care about what I'm driving around; I care more about driving past what I'm driving around, and doing it quickly.