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hi all,

so far I have watched with a popcorn and now finally you have brought me in, I AM an atheist. I am married to a wonderful Christian woman and we have a wonderful relationship. We are both people of science ( both have graduate degrees in molecular biology )Ok enough of the internet dick swinging

Snownman,

"Without religion there is NO reason NOT to kill as many people as you need to to get your way.....Your mind is weak, your logic flawed. I hope and pray your kind never prevail."

Logic? lets do logic.....

This is an Argumentum ad Consequentiam (Arguing that a proposition is true because belief in it has good consequences, or that it is false because belief in it has bad consequences is often an irrelevancy. For instance, a child's belief in Santa Claus may have good consequences in making the child happy and well-behaved, but these facts have nothing to do with whether there really is a Santa Claus.)

More over I am 35 and I have not killed one person to date to get my way. What proof do you have that your statement is true? unfortunatly for the rest of us your kind has prevailed and well your record speaks for itself.



"Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, all have had their way, their non religious way and they have killed more people than any other, period."

here we have an An appeal to emotion (This is a type of argument which attempts to arouse the emotions of its audience in order to gain acceptance of its conclusion)

I beg to differ, this Red herring argument can not obfuscate the fact that religion has claimed more lives than these three (nevermind that you just Godwinned yourself)



"Some think science is the answer, it is not"

What pray tell is the answer? because up to now religion has been doing a bang up job (sarcasm) lets see how many major discoveries (Medicine etc ) fall under religion and how many under science?



"Somewhere, about 7 years of age, many of us start to question the WHY we are here. "


you are right in this I did, however I never attributed my "being " to a higher power, myth, whatever you would like to call it. instead I started to study biology, Biochemistry, physics, and the rest of the hard sciences to understand my surroundings and yes science made more sense than religion to me as to how and why.



"Anyone who has put more than a few moments of thought into the subject has to have studied the religions of the world.....know NOTHING, yet they profess to know how to run the world."

Argumentum ad Ignorantiam ( An appeal to ignorance is an argument for or against a proposition on the basis of a lack of evidence against or for it)

Again I did, and nope not one once did it fill any need in me, again am I missing something?

Getting back to the main question, Evolution is the basis for many biological discoveries, just as simple math was a back bone for the space program so to is evolution to biology, biochem and so on. with out it some religious people would not be alive to spew your retoric.

but hey what do I know, I don't have the bible on my side