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Originally posted by RPKESQ
Taz's Master wrote:
For those scientists that are convinced by evolution and are anti-religion, my question is this: Why are you inclined to stamp out a facet of ourselves that has evolved with us? Nature has provided us with a desire to believe in God and develop religion, and this has been a help in our ascendence (sic)to planet's dominant organism. Do you not believe that man's interest in religion and God is a product of evolution, or have you decided to live outside of the natural world?
This is a serious question? You have sent time formulating this? Wow.
OK, there are many things that have developed in our evolution that we try to control. Birth sex (evidence of this goes back thousands of years), health, disease, birth defects, all types of breeding results, cancer, violence, bigotry, etc. All of these things are natural, and yet we have tried or succeeded in altering them. Just because something is “natural” doesn’t mean it is good (nor bad).
Nature has predisposed some of us to become drug addicts or alcoholics. Gene research indicates this is a difference between the majority who are not susceptible and those that are. Should we not try to stamp out this weakness?
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RPKESQ;
The fundimental issue that I have with your arguments is that you expect God to operate the way you want him to operate. God is in no shape, size or form human. God doesn't operate or think the way a human thinks. You see a starving person and ask yourself why doesn't God feed this person. You see a dead person and you're angry at God for not letting them live. You are looking at these problems like a human. Now I'm not God, and don't claim to know his mind. Unfortunately he doesn't call me up to tell me what's on his mind. I have been able to grasp a few things though...
1) Everyone dies. It's not a question of if, but when. It's pretty obvious that if (for the sake of discussion) God created the world, he chose to not populate it with immortal beings.
2) Bad things happen, all the time. You seem angry that God doesn't stop them. (BTW, if he did do it today, it would be the end of the world as we know it because bad things happen everywhere all the time.) But, if God wanted YOU to do something about the bad things, would he step in? Since we all have free will, if God wanted us to excercise that free will, he would need to give us choices. If you see someone who is needs help, you have a choice.
3) You seem to want to know why God (if he exists) hasn't stepped in already. But the Bible clearly says that God will return when we least expect it. So the fact that God hasn't stepped in yet doesn't mean that God doesn't exist, and it doesn't mean that God exists. It does mean that you have another day to try to help others and relieve suffering.
In theologic terms, what you are arguing is a form of Idality, specifically making God (or a god) in our terms. Christians believe that we didn't make God, but rather that God made us, in God's image. Does that mean that God has 2 arms and 2 legs? I doubt it, remember -- God is not human. The Bible says that God is Love, and "The Word". We humans have the capability to Love, just as God does, and thus are in his image. The Judaic-Christian God has always communicated through words. If you asked me to describe God to you, "Love" and "The Word" would be two of the best descriptions I could come up with. I'm sorry if they don't fit your image of God, but I can't help that.