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Jluetjen wrote:
The fundamental issue that I have with your arguments is that you expect God to operate the way you want him to operate. God is in no shape, size or form human. God doesn't operate or think the way a human thinks. You see a starving person and ask yourself why doesn't God feed this person. You see a dead person and you're angry at God for not letting them live. You are looking at these problems like a human. Now I'm not God, and don't claim to know his mind. Unfortunately he doesn't call me up to tell me what's on his mind. I have been able to grasp a few things though...
1) Everyone dies. It's not a question of if, but when. It's pretty obvious that if (for the sake of discussion) God created the world, he chose to not populate it with immortal beings.
2) Bad things happen, all the time. You seem angry that God doesn't stop them. (BTW, if he did do it today, it would be the end of the world as we know it because bad things happen everywhere all the time.) But, if God wanted YOU to do something about the bad things, would he step in? Since we all have free will, if God wanted us to exercise that free will, he would need to give us choices. If you see someone who is needs help, you have a choice.
3) You seem to want to know why God (if he exists) hasn't stepped in already. But the Bible clearly says that God will return when we least expect it. So the fact that God hasn't stepped in yet doesn't mean that God doesn't exist, and it doesn't mean that God exists. It does mean that you have another day to try to help others and relieve suffering.
In theologic terms, what you are arguing is a form of Idality, specifically making God (or a god) in our terms. Christians believe that we didn't make God, but rather that God made us, in God's image. Does that mean that God has 2 arms and 2 legs? I doubt it, remember -- God is not human. The Bible says that God is Love, and "The Word". We humans have the capability to Love, just as God does, and thus are in his image. The Judaic-Christian God has always communicated through words. If you asked me to describe God to you, "Love" and "The Word" would be two of the best descriptions I could come up with. I'm sorry if they don't fit your image of God, but I can't help that.
WOW!!!!!!!!
I must answer this. First, how you ever got this line of thought from my posts is amazing. I have never said I wanted god to do anything, in any manner. Why would you think this? I think you are lost in your reasoning.
All this mumbo-jumbo about god working in mysterious ways. Oh boy, do you ever realize that if you took your statements and substituted any mythological man-made deity in place of yours, they will all read the same. Try taking a comparative religions class. It’s all the same!
I don’t expect god to act in anyway. I don’t expect god to act at all. I don’t have any preconceived notion as how a mythical being will look, act or speak. I have no illusions as to how believing in a fantasy will change life. I don’t need the answers to be given to me. I don’t have any anger at what doesn’t exist. I have no judgment as to the proper course of action that a made-up invisible friend should or should not do. Believers have made these empty claims, not I. Believers have made the statements that god does this or god does that; or god will do this or that. I only requested you show me some of these actions. Bring it on! Let’s see some of this! Any historical records of these actions, by eye-witnesses? According to you, god’s actions are so mysterious, how in hell do you know what he wants, says, or does or doesn’t do? Been hearing voices again? If your god works for you, that’s just fine. But don’t try to push this mental garbage off on me.
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