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You still havn't gotten passed the dead being unable to have knowledge.
The verses you quote, especially the rich man and Lazarus, must have a different meaning.
Sheol and hades are the original words that have been translated as "hell".
They literally mean grave.
The bible says: "the wages sin pays is death". Romans 6:23
Everlasting torture was not *ever* mentioned.
Lake of fire or Gehenna- second death. If you read on you notice death is put there too.
Why?
Anything put there can never come back. Death without the possibility of a ressurection. Everlasting death. Or everlasting punishment, if you will. Torment can also have the meaning of being jailed. In this case, kept dead forever. everlasting torment.
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