[RoninLB]

When they were a significant cultural and economic influence in Spain everyone was happy. Then some broad got talked into an inquisition because she was broke and had to stay in power somehow. Then a radical became an opinion leader maybe a generation or two later, then another a few hundred yrs later, then an up-dated creation happened around mid 1800's, then WW1 trashed what was left of the Ottoman Empire's influence, then the cold war US strategic policies etc kept them avoiding USSR influence as much as possible.[i think time-lines are correct?]

The remnants of these once some times helpful warlords need their asses reamed. They started this War Against Western Civilization. Their enablers in Congress, anti-war far left, etc should watch France become more fa kuped every yr because of a weak political policy of dealing with the issue internally etc etc.

Their nation state supporters may ultimately need a beating by the US if we get whacked for a few thousand people... again.

"murdering their people "
-------- in the late 1980's - early 1990's NYC had about 2,200 murders/yr happening. When Giuliani came on he didn't seek rational conversation with the crooks and gangsters. The NYPD performed remarkably when given a green light. Today it's maybe around 400.


Rudy for President in 2008.