[jrdavid68]

Thanks Chris and others. I did this a year ago when we bought a '97 Jetta for one of the boys. A little research showed the dealer had the car for over a year so I knew they would be motivated. They had it tagged somewhere near $8k and I wrote a check for $5500 out the door and they eventually took it. Had to walk out the door a couple times, but they eventually came around. That car has been trouble free ever since.

I started this recent car search at the end of July. We have done a lot of business over the years with this dealer. Both the wife and daughter really want a used New Beetle. I'm ok with that as long as it meets my criteria. However, it seems that with used NBs, all the dealers around here look at what the retail price is and then jack their price up another $2,000. That makes negotiating a fair price rather difficult.

Given all that, we have started to look at Jettas too.

Any other opinions on an offer?

Thanks.