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Originally posted by Z-man
Moneyguy - Your points are very valid. Especially the "a relationship with God is a very individual thing..." I believe it can be the most personal relationship possible.
Some of my posts may have been mis-understood. As a person who believes in God, I just find it very difficult to understand how morality and dissering what is right and wrong can be achieved without a God or higher being who sets forth the "morality code."
I believe both "sides" of the argument believe that before anything got started (either by Creation or Evolution), there was chaos - a big mix of intergallactic goop. (The Bible calls it a void). So out of this chaos, the Christian believes that God created the universe. On the other hand, those who do not believe in God believe that the universe evolved from nothingless and chaos to order, harmony, and life. How can order, morality, dissernment of right and wrong come out of chaos? For me, that is the hardest point or argument that I cannot understand. Can someone explain how that is resolved?
Thanks,
-Z-man.
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Z-man, you will never get a logical explanation, because there is not one. Without God, there is no right and wrong. Without God, we are no more important than any other matter in the universe. Without God, our life is only a tiny blip on the cosmic highway without meaning, substance or value. Some will try to sugar coat it or find "value"...but in the end it will fall apart...it has to because without God we came from nothing, and therefore are nothing. We are a cosmic accident. I agree, it's hard to understand how people overlook this simple concept and "create" value (i.e. right and wrong)...I guess it's the only way to make their life seem worthwhile. Yea, tough words and it seems mean, but it's the only conclusion you can come to if God does not exist.
But alas, God does exist so we do have meaning and value. So then the question is, since God does exists, what is my duty to Him? The Gospel of John is a great starting point in answering this question.
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Wayne C.