[m21sniper]

Originally posted by Moneyguy1
Snipe....

I believe that charity should be a private matte in a perfect world, but that is as unlikely to work as it would be for each individual to provide their own security, fire protection and military.

I believe that if you try to take my money without my permission all you're going to pull back is a bloody stump.

I believe that comparing social welfare to the national defense and fire departments is utterly ridiculous.

Unfortunately, you make the same mistake that many others have made in providing labels withlut an iota of factual evidence.

Example please.

So you came from the hood.....Wow. And this is relevant how?

It is directly relevant because i came from a position of disadvantadge- and ON MY OWN- raised myself up.

Thereby proving that people do NOT need handouts to excel.

You do not take advantage of what you earned by service to your country? again, Wow.

That is relevant because it is a clear example that i practice what i preach.

My friend, you sound like a foil for fastpat. The other end of the spectrum in some respects with the same aims.

And you sound as if you are addressing me with a tone of condescension...which is quite unfounded.

As welcome as you are to your POV, I cannot in all honesty be that callous toward those that have real need.

That is why god invented Charity. IF YOU want to help people, by all means, use it.

If I am somewhat socially leaning, so be it. Then again, I am so conservative on economic matters, most of you would think me draconian. I would rather be inclined to help my fellow man than turn my back on them and let them suffer, which BTW has been an attitude that has brought down whole governments; ignoring the masses. There has to be a balance.

It is not my problem if you are too lazy to work, or continue to spit out babies, or never bothered to graduate HS, or get a grant for college, or never joined the military to learn a trade or get money for said college.

Even if you have spinalbifida and three heads, it is NOT my fault, and REQUIRING ME to pay for YOU is unjust.

BTW.....The statement "socialism is evil" is an opinion, not a fact. Look up that article in Scientific American I recommended.

You know genius, the statment "Facism and communism are evil" is just an opinion too.

Like EVERYTHING you just offered above.

Or are you the only one entitled to voice an opinion?

Once again, there has to be a balance between extreme "individualism" and extreme "welfare state" thinking.

There is, it's called CHARITY, and it's VOLUNTARY.

Man, it becomes more difficult to deal with extremists. Maybe I should just give in and become one myself!!

Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

It BAFFLES my mind that you feel i'm an extremist for intellectually arguing against socialism.

Again, Socialists are evil...and a mere step removed from full fledged communists.