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Here's my final thought. I followed Dave B. today out of the "pit's" where we stopped. (See the Thanksgiving day run thread.) Now Dave's cars are fast and so is Dave. We know he has driven things like 935's in competition. The man will take it up to the limit and since he maintains his own cars (TRE Motorsports), he knows what's underneath him. That's more than I can say for me since I've had this car less than 2 months and haven't gone over it enough to be driving the way I was driving.

OK, we had a nice long stretch, I'd say a mile or so. When I hit 5th after redlining 4th, I didn't want to know how fast we were going. I just wanted to see his brake lights come on! He was pulling me, no doubt, not even a trace of doubt on that. And, I'm sure there were some very fast cars behind. But, I got a jump on the crowd an nailed it as soon as Dave moved out as I knew he'd be on the gas.

Finally, I saw the brake lights I was waiting for because we were running out of road. He must have been 3-400 yards out in front of me. I can't even tell you the RPM in hit in 5th as I began to get concerned about the speed. I'd have to guess we topped 130, maybe he hit 140, I don't know. I really don't.

So, what's the point I'm making? It's not about me. I told you I was on the threshold of being scared. It's about speed and what Dave says. If Dave says Exec's car went 165, then it did and so did he. I don't know how or care. It took some extraordinary circumstances, that's all I can tell you.

I don't like the braggadocio theme Exec puts on, but he's telling us that this happened. I'm inclined to believe it. I just don't know how it was accomplished. The difference between these 2 guys is night and day. Dave knows he can walk the walk and he walked everyone once again today. so, who knows, maybe Jeff (EM) tied a rope to the back of one of Dave's hot rods. I've had 3 people tell me this is all true and everyone of them stands to gain nothing by saying that it's true.

30 mile an hour tailwind on a flat or downhill run with a known entity breaking the wind, it's possible. The question will always be why did he have to say that the car went 165? There are lots of cars that will do 165 and they're vintage, too.

I'll bet another mile of open space and Dave would have been near that today. Not me. I was getting ready to back out anyway when I thankfully saw the brake lights. So much for 165, I ain't there. But, I believe it happened, now, and can be duplicated. Let's just not egg it on so it has to be.

For the hell of it, let's assume I was 5 grand in 5th with a stock G50 running 245/45/16's at full tread height (25.6 according to Toyo), no, let's take off a tenth to be safe (25.5). The best info I can come up with is that the '88 G50 5th gear is a .889 ratio coupled to a final drive of 9:31. How fast is that? Generally. I can't say for sure I made 5K, but we were humpin' along.

Again, this is to make a point, I'm not gonna go out and do this again (I hope) and I doubt I'll see that much room at Willow Springs when I get there in this car. It's just to see how much room is needed and what about 220 HP can do.
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