[jluetjen]

By the way, to really confuse some on this BBS --

I actually believe that controlling greenhouse gasses is a good thing that should be done. I like the idea of a cap with market trading of the gasses creation rights.

But I don't think that it's a good thing to lie, and preach bogus science as a means to this end. The end does not justify the means. I think that the Dem's would do themselves a great service by stepping back from constant demagoguary on this and other subjects. When you turn subjects like this into a dogma, they essentially turn their back on the prospect of negotiating a useful compromise.

This is the big risk to the new Democratic Congress in the US. The Republicans tend to be practical about their lawmaking and cut deals with disparate groups to build concensus and to make progress on issues. The Dem's tend to adopt issues as dogmatic truths which results in an all-or-nothing negotiation attitude. The result if they continue will be a wasted 2 years congressionally.