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Auriel, how about we talk about what the bible really says about murder?

Genesis 9:6:
"Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man." (KJV)

Exodus 21: 12-17 (RSV)
"Whoever strikes a person mortally shall be put to death. If it was not premeditated, but came about by an act of God, then I will appoint for you a place to which the killer may flee. But if someone willfully attacks and kills another by treachery, you shall take the killer from my altar for execution."

Leviticus 24: 19-23 (RSV)
Anyone who maims another shall suffer the same injury in return: fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth; the injury inflicted is the injury to be suffered. One who kills an animal shall make restitution for it; but one who kills a human being shall be put to death. You shall have one law for the alien and for the citizen: for I am the LORD your God.

Numbers 35:31
"Moreover ye shall take no satisfaction for the life of a murderer, which is guilty of death: but he shall be surely put to death."
There is a lot more. I can keep gonig if you like.

Jesus said the laws of god (set forth in the old testiment) shall not be changed, in no many words.
When he stopped the stoning and said "he among you who is without sin, cast the first stone" he did it because he was exposing the hypocracy of the pharissees, not because he did not support the death penalty.

It is very clear: God wants murderers to be put to death.