[Moneyguy1]

Revisionist history and not revisioniet current events.

Can ANYONE actually take someone like Ann seriously? Either as a source or anti-source. She is, in the end, like all lovers of publicity, irrelevant.

I too, ask the question of how we define success in understandable terms, not a etherial concept, but something with some meat on the bones. Are there those who STILL believe that the Administration has handled the situation brilliantly? If so, I would LOVE to hear specifics beginning from day one as to how the decisions made have resulted in a more secure America both at home or abroad. And, PLEASE....avoid the unprovable like "We haven't been attacked since...." That argument is a strawman argument since a negative cannot be proven. And just who was in charge when the attacks happened? And why is the fact that the attackers were Saudi dismissed with the comment that Saudi Arabia is our ally? THe Wahabi movement is bankrolled by the Royal Family. In their minds, it makes sense because otherwise there might be more internal acts of revolution against the absolutist regime of the Saudi family.

Nations are only allies when it is in their best interests to do so.

Surrender? I do not think so. Change tactics and become more like the enemy? Now there is a good idea....More actions to which the public is not privy. I am in favor of that if it gets results and emasculates the "terrorist" leadership. Call in the corporate internationals and get some industry in the more settled parts of Afghanistan and Iraq? Now there is an idea....If a man has a job, he may not be so interested in tying explosives around his waist.