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Originally posted by fastpat
Yes, you've stated your position re: vagueness, and I've posted voluminous references to the contrary. Further, since we have the writings of those who in fact wrote the amendment and then saw it ratified, which supports my position, and yours by your statement, 100% of the time, without a single person involved with the Constitution stating that the Second Amendment means other than what my understanding of it is, you'll have to counter their words with some other view. Noteworthy is the fact that the whole idea of vagueness in the Second Amendment is a 20th century construct.
And, last, the best evidence of all is the fact that there are over 100 million gun owners in America who own more than 600 milliion firearms of all types. That's what you call irrefutable empirical evidence.
You may, of course, continue to see the Second Amendment as vague; but I understand it and so do millions of others in America.
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No, you posted numerous references to the one of two interpretations that legal scholars and the like adhere to.
And no, if 100 million gun owners in America is "proof" that the clause is clear, then there would be no ban of guns in places like DC and Chicago.
Most do see the Second Amendment as vague, but embrace one of the two interpretations, and I am one. You "understand" the one of the two interpretations, and that's cool, but it still doesn't mean the amendment is clear as written.