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Originally posted by svandamme
mais oui mon cher... mais en faîte, concernant l'Iraq les Français on bien donnez l'assesement plus accurate que celle la de votres governement ... ce n'etes pas les Français qui ont fails la connery sur le niveau international... n'est pas?

si je commence a dire que la guerre est ni noble, ni glorieux, meme pas dans le cas de defence, je ne disais pas que la capitulation est le seul alternatif...Peut êtres vois avez obliez, la defence dans la Premie Guerre du Monde?? pas de la capitulation la... si vous dites que la France est plain des capitulateurs, peut-êtres on peut dire la meme pour l'Etats-Unis? Vietnam etait une capitulation bien humiliant...

Si vous êtes pas sûr quelle point je vous presente, peut-êtres ca va mieux en Français??

It figures.

I disagree. Going to war for a honorable cause is indeed noble. No the French have not been right on any issue that comes to mind. Yes, France is the home of surrender. No, we did not surrender in Vietnam. We soundly defeated the North Vietnamese and withdrew after the Paris Peace accords. The problem was that our (at the time) lily-livered congress chose not to live up to our obligation to help the South Vietnamese as we promised. This failure, purely for political gain, resulted in millions of deaths that we could have prevented. The war was not ignoble, but our failure to support our ally in '74 was indeed shameful and a dark day in the history of our nation. If we fall to similar democratic politics with our situation in Iraq...we will follow the same path. Millions will die and our military will be destroyed....again. The reason that we have reached the current situation is because we failed to act strongly enough in the past and are largely viewed as a paper tiger....due to the trepidation of some of our elected leaders and the partisan political aspirations of others.