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Jeff and Milt,
Okay I'm just an outsider who zips over the bridge to party with my my OC friends in the shiny new downtown Long Beach but some people I talk to think the "new" Long Beach is pretty nice.
Are you bummed because the chain restaurants have taken over the harbor front? (we are fighting hard to keep that from happening here in San Pedro). I know north L.B. is a sheet hole but in the thirty years I have been able to drive it has always been that way and hopefully as they fix up downtown property values will go up and push the undesirables further north.
Anyway just curious what the local L.B. folks feel about what's happening to their town.
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Gary Fisher 29er
2019 Kia Stinger 2.0t gone 
1995 Miata Sold
1984 944 Sold
I am not lost for I know where I am, however where I am is lost. - Winnie the poo.
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