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FYI, AAA also has a similar buying service.

Also as far as dealer invoice goes, that is NEVER what the dealer pays to the manufacturer, do not be fooled. As Nota said, incentives and volume discounts, rebates and other wierd stuff. Dealer buys 10 cars, maybe he pays invoice, but he buys 100 cars and the factory kicks back 3-4%, buys 1000 cars, maybe its 7%. Do you really think they are going to then lower the invoice price to reflect that?

Also, don't get ganked on the Destination fees. THe dealer has play there, and you can always get that knocked down once you've gotten the best price you can on the car.

Keep this in mind, unless you've spoken with the salesman, sales manager, finance manager and the general manager, you haven't gotten the best deal. If you're at the dealership for less than 2 hours, you haven't gotten the best deal. It is only when you've spoken with all four employees, spent countless hours at the dealership, and have actually had them refuse to sell you the car that you know that's the bottom line.