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Originally posted by Z-man
The key to understanding Christianity can be boiled down to one word: faith. If there were "hard evidence" as you require, there would be no need to have faith in Christ. So it is a paradox to seek evidence for something that requires faith.
That said, there are plenty of facts in Christianity that can be substantiated, such as:
1. Jesus Christ exsisted and lived in Palestine some 2000 years ago.
2. He was the son of a Jewish carpenter, and His ancestry can be traced back to King David.
3. This Jesus Christ was crucified by the Romans after the Sanhedrin accused Him of proclaiming to be God.
4. His life was chronicled in great detail by His followers.
5. He was a teacher of twelve men. From those twelve men rose a world-wide belief system called Christianity.
Note the abscence of any "spiritual realm" items in my list of facts.
One more thought:
You state that evolution has been proven in the laboratory. I have also heard that evolution of man cannot be shown since it would take 1,000,000 + years to see any evolutinoary effect. Well in that case, can science attempt to make a fish get up and walk on land? It's a simple organism, and with all the advanced in scientific technology, it shouldn't be too difficult to get the little fishey to grow legs and walk...
-Z-man.
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I have no issue with your list of facts, on the face of it. And I agree with you absolutely that is boils down to "faith". As has been demostrated in this thread, it cannot be supported that JC rose from the dead- except on the basis of faith. I accept that you and others believe that JC rose from the dead and ascended to heaven.
Faith is the ability to beleive that for which there is no material support. Some people cannot intellectually make this leap. I suppose thats why its called the Leap of Faith.
Problems arise for the rational community when the faith based community make staments like the ones you have made here about evolution. And when these views, spun and polished, permeate public policy, we get very agitated.
This will be the great clash of cultures. Not between flavours of religous fundamentalisms, but between the faith based and rational.