i like the retro cars. looove the concept of a hot rod. once i saw what's being done w/ those bad-ass cars, i lost a bit of respect. there's only so many canyon/starbucks runs you can do at 70% of the car's potential, especially when it *looks* like a vintage racer. and make sure you don't call your car 'rgroop car' when it actually isn't. they'll come down on you like the inquisition on a heretic.