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Originally posted by Tim Hancock
Ahhh....that is where you were going with this all along.

Just because someone has the money doesn't mean govt should get to keep upping the ante and demanding more. When is enough enough? I mean basically the extreme left would probably not be happy until all homeowners give up their houses and cars so they must walk to work while the homeless live in their houses and drive their cars.

If this is not penalizing the winners and rewarding the losers, I don't know what is.
Whoa! First of all, I post these threads for discussion purposes. In them, I offer my observations and perceptions. These are not games or traps.

You think liberals hope to eliminate personal ownership of real estate and automobiles. Please, Tim, engage in these conversations or just leave them alone. It is not possible for me to believe that Tim Hancock is an intelligent person who believes that half of America detests home ownership and automobiles. If the villification of socially responsible thinking has been so effective that smart conservatives believe social liberals are vicious demons bent on causing misery and wretchedness for all Americans, then I guess you and others who are similarly fooled simply cannot be productive participants in these discussions.

Yes, part of my agenda with this thread is to see if somebody will say "Right, Superman. There are born losers. People who, through no fault of their own, will not be economic winners in America. Bummer. This is a nation of competitors, and there are losers. Too bad for them, all the better for the winners. Winners win. Losers lose. We have no responsibility toward either."

If that is your feeling, say so. If not, then you believe, as do most Americans, that we have some responsibility to people less fortunate than ourselves. Okay. If we can agree on that, then it's a matter of how to take care of those people.

If you were respectfully reporting that we have an obligation to these people but that gubmit programs have gotten out of hand, great. I will be delighted to listen to your view and engage respectfully in that discussion. But when you start making the ridiculous remarks like I see above, I am saddened. I want to discuss these things with you. I respect your views, Tim. If I were to take the above remark at face value, I'd have to dismiss you as a kook.

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I have no way of believing that entrepeneurs would fold up their tents and stop competing if taxes are raised. Some, close to retirement, would throw in the towel. Sure. But the guy who makes custom boat trailers is not going to close up shop and go to work as a Welder at Zeiglers. That's like saying that if you made the hoop smaller, basketball players would switch to soccer.
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