[Jeff Higgins]

Originally posted by wludavid
Jeff, we sniveling urban liberals (who didn't take civics because we were too busy taking useful classes like physics and calculus) are people too.

That's a large part of the problem. Liberal "intellectuals" never think how their government runs, and why it runs that way, is important enough to warrent their attention. They never let that get in their way when they would like to suggest how it should run, however.

Originally posted by wludavid
We make breakfast every morning, go to work during the week, maybe work on the car in the evening, or have a drink at the bar on the way home. We're not trying to "run the country" any more than anyone else is. We simply want a fair voice in choosing the most powerful person in the world.

The Electoral Collage provides just that; a fair voice for all of us. There have been any number of scholarly dissertations written on this very topic over the last couple hundred years. I won't attempt to paraphrase them here, as I would do them all a disservice.

Originally posted by wludavid
Again, the "population centers" aren't running the country. The people run the country. It just so happens that a large percentage of the people in this country have chosen to live in an urban area. You yourself are one of the big-city folks who is under-represented in presidential elections. It's only by coincidence that the party you favor comes out ahead in this deal. So please take your class warfare nonsense somewhere else.

Democrats seem to have very quickly forgotton the "coincidence" that led to eight years of Bubba. There was no hue and cry from liberals in those years to change the system. Liberals tend to be somewhat short-sighted in this respect.

Our Founding Fathers anticipated all of this. They knew the hand-wringing ninnies that could not understand the Electoral Collage would one day get their panites in a twist over it when they felt is wasn't "fair". Predictably, after one of their favorite sons loses. That is why they made it so difficult to dispose of; so the more mature could weather these little tantrums of the uninformed.

Originally posted by wludavid
I don't claim to understand all the ins and outs of electoral theory. But attempting to malign city-dwellers is off the mark, as well as tiresome. Did you even notice the irony of your remarks? You're defending the "hick rednecks" from an imaginary attack even while viciously insulting "distorted little universes" that many people, including you and me, choose to live near.

My reference to "distorted little universes" has nothing to do with their physical location. I was refering to their state of being.

Originally posted by wludavid
And honestly, it saddens me that "intellectual" is now an insult in many circles.

"Intellectual" has only recently become an insult, and then only when teamed with "liberal". Think about that for a moment. Think about whose tired rhetoric pushed it into that realm; it certainly wasn't the "dumb rednecks", the targets of "liberal intellectual" derision.