[MichiganMat]

I disagree, and I think we have different definitions of "conviction".

Our guys are dutifully doing their job to the best of their ability, no one doubts that. But regardless of what they want to do, the leadership decides what they *will* do. Our armed forces collectively did not choose to invade Iraq, our Boy King commanded them to and, from what I've read, with almost complete disregard to the wishes of the military.

By your definition of conviction we wouldn't need to extend tours of duty, our troops (most as you say) would be signing up to stay indefinitely.

Honorable? Absolutely. Worthwhile for the American people, the budget, and the long term goals of the USA? Im not so sure.