[jyl]

I'm okay with eating animals. I haven't found a logical way to decide on this issue, it seems to come pretty much down to personal ethics and choice. But I note that almost all of the animals we eat would not live at all, either individually or as a breed/species, were they not raised for food.

I'm not okay with treating animals badly when they are alive, or kiling them in a prolonged and painful manner, though I grant that most ways of killing will cause some pain.