[Moneyguy1]

Joe: Luv ya as a fellow desert rat but let's be honest. You carry your core beliefs on your sleeve and get your dander up when others do. It is interesting to read posts and see who "loses it" first and who maintains their cool. Certain posters seem to distance themselves and respond in a cool dispassionate manner while others simply attack. The rest of us shake our heads and in our individual opinions, we know who came out on top.

No problem with being outspoken. Just be tolerant when others with strong opinions state theirs!!

Like you and like kach, I do not support the way things are going and I am convinced that we were sold a bill of goods by an admistration with an agenda and a press willing to go along with the hype. I will go further and see a leader who is stubborn, convinced that he knows better than anyone else and as the Commander in Chief (a civilian) says that civilians have no business interefering with the military. So...Who reports to who? An old adage: "War is far to serious a business to be left in the hands of the military". I do not believe that those opposed to the status quo are traitors and in fact have a duty to act as a "loyal opposition". I believe the president should sign the appropriation, even with the time constraints and fight out things later. To do otherwise is, in my opinion, incredibly short sighted and damn close to cutting ff his nose to spite his face. I believe the next year and a half will be the most contentious and damaging this country has gone through since Nixon and Watergate/Vietnam.