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Originally posted by stuartj
God is not fair, or anything else, Jeff. Because it is very unlikely that god exists. I cannot conclusively say god, or the faeries in my garden for that matter, doesnt exist ofcourse, but your proposition that this god exists and is so complex as to have created the universe and everything in it, and can at the same time monitor the concisuoness of all we humans and make judegments as to whether he will break his own cosmic rules (or not) when we ask- immeadiately poses the even BIGGER question....where did this god come from?
"Your rememberances of this life on earth will be as those you hold today of your early childhood. This life is a shadow of what is to come."
You know this how, Jeff? Superstitious, dangerous claptrap.
You are the perfect candidate for the Dawkins challenge Jeff. I dont think you are as far gone as Trekker or Doug. Read "the God Delusion."
Hell, I'll buy it for you.
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Actually, I have been meaning to read that one, Stuart.
Just to be clear on a small point (or two) I really do not think He has the ability to, or would be bothered with, monitoring our every thought. I have said elswhere I do not believe He is "omnipotent". I see evidence for that in the very Bible that many would have you believe "proves" His existance.
The other point is that I readily admit that I "know" nothing. And I can prove it... I am admittedly making suppositions based on my interpretation of the evidence I have seen. Some of that evidence is quite strong, some is exceedingly weak. But they are
my suppositions; I would never deign to impose them upon another. Everyone needs to arrive at their own; mine are my own, and no one else can have them, thank you very much.
I put as much stock in your suppositions as anyone else's, believe it or not. I will debate yours with you, and I will debate my fellow Christians' over theirs. I'll learn from both; at least I hope I will. I can do that because the cornerstone of my beliefs are that I don't know anything for sure. I can guess; I can hope. In the end that's all it is. My guesses and hopes are different than yours, that's all. Can I "prove" any of it? Hardly. Then again, neither can you. Or anyone else for that matter.