[charleskieffner]

have shot long range for quite sometime now. throw away everything but the following:

.338
.338 lapua
.300 win mag
.308
30.06
.50cal

scads of info posted i mean scads!

if you want to be competitive and not have yer a$$ handed to you, you got to spend the bucks. dont listen to ANYBODY about out of the box accuracy. its all bullcrap. buy 10 rifles from different mfgs. or same mfg. and get 10 different groupings.

remington custom shop
springfield M1A(custom shop-super duper match)
mcmillian
robar
or anybody thats building camp perry quality rifles.

remember 1/2 moa is a joke in bonifide long range sniper circles. with correct ammo/correct gun/and YOU(which is the BIGGEST VARIABLE) will be able to take "X" out all day long, dependant on weather conditions/temp/humidity/wind etc. over and over and over. not just some "luck shot".

since the brilliant military planners NOW HAVE DECIDED its a good idea for each squad to have a counter sniper-sniper, getting a rifle built for yourself due to mfgs. backlogs, is an act of god just about.

i have won quite a few bets taking "X" out!

its kinda like riding a bike, once you learn you dont ferget!

learn yer "come-ups"! learn them, live them, know them like back of hand. paste them on rifle stock and ONLY BUY quality optics w/tall turrets. not the cap style that you need dime to change them. unless of course you want game to run away.

next palma match get 4 guys and do it. 4 man teams. target puller/marker,score guy, spotter,shooter.

wait til you go in the pit and have 50 guys unload hi-power rifles on you and you have to mark targets. you'll know exactly what a fire fight is all about!

hit phx and find out what a world class shooting facility we have at ben avery range. every feb. washingtons birthday have military rifle only 1000 yard match. its a blast..........literally!

.50 cals now banned at ben avery because rounds impacting over mtn onto federal detention center!!!!!!