[Joeaksa]

Rick,

Disagree with one thing. If its your opinion and you feel strongly about it, then voice it. As long as its done in a civilized and calm manner do not see any reason for anyone to hold back.

Telling someone to fork off is one thing, but telling them in a manner to make them look forwards to the journey and end result is what may be needed in some cases!

I am not totally opposed to Pat's return but should he return and resort to his old modes then it will soon start it all over again. Yes he went after one Moderator, saying some things that would have pissed most anyone off. I had a dispute with a Moderator on this forum myself in the past. Had I been totally in the wrong, bet that I would have been bounced as well, but in private emails with other Moderators and the owner of this list the situation calmed down. Had Pat done the same thing and not kept jabbing the one Moderator in the side as well as saying things that did not need saying in the first place, he might very well still be here.

Joe