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Joeaksa Joeaksa is offline
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Originally posted by john70t
Haven't had that stuff in about a decade, but vigorously reserve my constitutional right to do so at anytime off the job.

The incidental residue would be from those hippys next to you at the rock concert rock concert or the new poker partners. Tell them before about possible second hand exposure.

Or better yet, find another employer. This one seems to have its priorities jumbled and doesn't deserve your hard work.
I've found there are plenty of drug-free walking vegetables at Home Depot.
Ahhhn, your constitutional rights do not have a thing to do with it. Someone coming down from a stiff night of partying and not being "on the ball" and thus causing an accident that hurts or kills someone is a main reason why people are drug tested. Please show us where something like this is protected in the Constitution.

Second hand exposure? When I was being cleared for my last Top Secret security clearance for the Air Force I was pee tested, as usual. One week before had been in Amsterdam and caught a couple of good whiff's of the stuff the people at the next table were smoking. We moved to another table. I was called in and told that while they could tell that it was second hand and not direct exposure, had I not declared it I would not have passed. Second hand exposure means you were near someone doing drugs, and you better have a good reason for being in proximity of someone doing drugs. In this case it was a legal drug in a country that allows it, otherwise I would have had some difficult questions thrown at me.

Drug testing has gotten a lot better in the last 20 years and if they really want to check you, you cannot hide. If you feel differently, pls tell me how you can get around the hair or fingernail issue.

Find another employer? Well, how does that square with paragraph one? Your right to be high should not intrude on everyone else's right to be safe, on the road, work place or anywhere out in the public. As well how does this square with their wanting an employee who is on the ball, safe and ready to work all day long to earn the money they are being paid? You really want to get high and do not want to be drug tested, then start your own company and you as the owner can do as you wish!

Am sure that some of those people at Home Depot feel exactly the same about others there at times.

Guys, I used to get high when younger. Am not saying not to party but we always did it on Friday or Saturday and were clean and ready to go on Monday. This did not happen every weekend as well. Once I got older and as pee testing came out I stopped as my future is worth more than getting high. As well I kinda outgrew it, and just do not need to "escape reality" these days.

If there is something so bad or difficult in your world that you still feel the need to get high often, then to try fooling the drug tests (or get a new employer who does not test) then one might think that you have other problems that need addressing...
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Last edited by Joeaksa; 07-21-2007 at 08:29 AM..
Old 07-21-2007, 08:26 AM
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